Peter Brown Family History

John Howes - Early Payne family of Sussex - Part Three


In the two prior articles I have demonstrated the presence in Twineham/ Hickstead of a well established yeoman family of Paynes. I also provided evidence to suggest that all the Paynes in the Mid-Sussex area were descended from this family, due to strong connections to both the Homewood and the Michelborne/Mascall families. While direct links between the early family members are not always documented there is enough circumstantial evidence to suggest a strong likelihood of a connection.
In this article I will deal with the Paynes of Horsted Keynes and Balcombe and one of the branches from East Grinstead who also held properties in Waldron and some adjacent parishes. These branches of the family all have good circumstantial connections to the Paynes of Twineham, through connections in Lindfield during the 15th century (See Parts 1 & 2).

Horsted Keynes
Crouchers or Crouche House in Horsted Keynes.
The Payne holdings in Horsted Keynes are close to the properties they occupied in Lindfield and the family there was most likely related to the Lindfield branch. Thomas Payne a descendent of the earliest Paynes of Horsted Keynes was associated with the Walsted property in a document dated 16 Apr 1662 (SAS-D/353-ESRO). This was a feoffment of lands that Thomas Payne of “Horstedkaynes, yeoman” inherited by his wife Mary Longley in Lindfield “called Westland alias Upper Walsted in LINDFEILD containing 68 ac. lying to a river or stream from Kilbrook to East Mascall bridge”.
The earliest recorded Payne in Horsted Keynes was Henry who died in 1558. Henry was probably born in the late 15th century. Herry Payne, husbandman of Horsted Keynes made a will in Nov 1558 naming two sons, Thomas and John. John inherited Henry’s properties in Horsted Keynes.
John Payne died on Jun 7 1597, and an inquest was held at Arundel on 4 Aug 1598 (40 Elizabeth). It was determined that he died seised of a messuage, barn, garden and lands in Horsted Keynes called Crowchehouse or Crowerchers and his heir was son Thomas aged 40 or more i.e born before 1557.
Thomas Payne died 13 May 1615 and an inquest was held in East Grinstead on 26 Jul 1616. His lands were Crouche house alias Crouchers in Horsted Keynes and in the will of Thomas Pelling of Lindfield dated 23 Feb 1616/7 his goddaughter Elynor Payne, daughter of Thomas Payne was of Freshfield. Thomas’ son Thomas aged 6 years nine months was his heir, and was baptised Aug 13 1609 (Horsted Keynes Bishops Transcripts). Crouchers was still in the Payne family in the will of Thomas Payne (1667/8) who also owned Freshfields and Kidbarrow (Kidborough) in Horsted Keynes a short distance east of East Mascalls and Walstead in Lindfield.
One other member of the Payne family was in Horsted Keynes at the start of the 17th century. Edward Payne from Ardingly and his wife Mary became the occupants of Northland in Horsted Keynes around 1619. Northlands was part of the Manor of Broadhurst which at that time was in the possession of the Michelbornes. Edward died in 1632 and the property went to his son Edward.
Alexander Payne of Balcombe. Alexander Payne was born about 1500 and may have been a son of Richard Payne the elder. In 1524 he paid the lay subsidy in the Hundred of Strete. At some time before 1539, when the earliest Balcombe registers start he married Ellyner. They had at least seven children together which recorded in the Balcombe parish register. Alexander was married twice as the will lists three children, Richard, Agnes Gele and Anne (or possibly Amie) as seperate from the children he had with Ellyner. These three plus Thomas do not appear in the Balcombe registers and were probably born in the early 1530’s. Alexander probably married Elynor around 1536 and his first wife probably died around 1535. Alexander’s son Richard married a widow Katherine Balcombe ended up owning the Hapsett property (see Part 2).
On 18th Jan 1553/1554 Alexander as Sander Payne of Balcombe was a witness to the will of Thomas Gynner of Cuckfield. Alexander died in 1558 and left a will, but his burial does not appear in the Balcombe registers which are missing for that year. Ellyner was still alive but her burial is not in the registers suggesting that she may have died sometime in the late 1550’s or early 1560’s where registry entries are missing.
East Grinstead
Paynes were in East Grinstead in the 14th century but it is difficult to connect these to later members of the family. William Pain was taxed in East Grinstead at £3.00 in 1327 and again as William Payn in 1333 at £4 9s and appeared in the Nonae roll of 1340 for 1s 6d. There was a John Payn of Greensted in Sussex, a debtor to William ate Fold, fishmonger of London in 1341(Court of Chancery C/241/119/88).  In the 16th century three main branches of the Payne family were living in the Parish of East Grinstead, initially called the Paynes of Pyckstones (spellings vary), Brambletye and Plawhatch (later Monks, Maules and Legsheath). For Pyckstones and Plawhatch see part 4.
Brambletye and Horseshoe in East Grinstead and Properties in Waldron
The Paynes of Brambletye had ties to Waldron and probably came from there to East Grinstead. Several of the descendents of the earliest John of Brambletye returned to Waldron in the 16th century, while another branch became the Paynes of Plawhatch. The current farmhouse at Horseshoe is not the one that would have been occupied by the Paynes in the 16th century as it dates from the early 17th century.
There were three brothers John, William and Edward, but who their father was is unknown. They may be the grandsons of Robert, via his son Robert making John of Pickstones his uncle but there is no proof of this more likely they descend from the Payne family in Waldron. John and his brothers were born around 1505.
I believe John Payne of Brambletye (?-1559) descended from William of Lindfield discussed in part 1. Recall that in the 1480’s William was a feofee of Richard Tanner of Waldron. In the mid 16th century when the Waldron parish registers commence there are a number of Paynes in Waldron.
The first Waldron reference is a grant dated 1478/9 by Richard Tannere, of Lyndefeld, to Richard Mascall, the elder, John atte Homwod, of Cokefeld, William Potter, William Payn, Thomas Loveston, of Brightelmeston, and John atte Ree, of Cokefeld, of all his lands, &c., in the parish of Walderne:, (Chancery Ancient Deeds C C 146/982). Note that the Homewood and Mascall families are mentioned here as they are in later Payne references from this area.
There were several Paynes in Waldron in the 16th century. William had 2 daughters baptized there, Susan on 6 Apr 1565 and Mary on 14 Oct 1566. I believe this was the William, brother of John who died in 1559 but I have no proof and William disappears from the record. Earlier William was a witness to a bargain and sale in Waldron dated 23 Apr 1540 (SAS RF/2/48-ESRO).
The first record of John Payne was in 1532 when William Tomson granted the land at Lower Gibbs Farm to John Payne (of Brambletye according to Felbridge and District History Group) in East Grinstead, Sussex.  On 20th May 1538, John Payne granted [Lower] Gibbes to Michael Egerton and the land then descended to his son Thomas Egerton. This property was part of the Manor of Walsted part of which was also farmed by the Payne family in Lindfield (Felbridge and District History Group).
In November 1542, John Payne holding Gybbes at fenne, sold six acres being part of Gybbes at fenne to John Jewell de Lymsfield. These six acres probably refer to the property formerly known as Honey’s alias Cuhling Croft (later known as Little Gibbshaven). Twenty years later in 1562, the Court Book for the manor of Hedgecourt records John Bysshe paying rent for Gibbs Att ffen, containing twenty acres at that date, but unfortunately it has not yet been possible to determine when John Bysshe succeeded John Payne at Gibbs Att ffen. (Felbridge and District History Group). There is however some doubt as to the assignment of this John Payne as being of Brambletye. In Part 4 of this series I will present data that makes this John Payne as more probably coming from the Pyckstone branch. The confusion is understandable as there were at least four John Paynes around in the early 16th century not including those further west in Sussex or in the Eastbourne area.
John Payne of Brambletye is encountered next in a bargain and sale agreement dated 26 Jan 1550 (SAS-RF/2/67-ESRO). The sale was by Edward Benton of Ifield, yeoman to John Payne of Brambletye, yeoman for £130 of all those tenements, lands, meadows, pastures, woods and rents in Waldron called Woodplace and Tanners (note again the connection to Richard Tanner). In 1550 there was a Fine between John Payne Querent and Edward Benton and Anne his wife deforciants of a messuage, garden, barn, 60 ac of land, 6 ac of meadow, 4 ac of wood and 16 ac of furze and heath and 6s in rent in Waldron.
John died in 1559 and left a will dated 15 Mar 1555, proved in Lewes 7 Jul 1559. He left bequests to his wife Johan including 33s 4d a year for life to be paid out of his tenement called Woodplace in Waldron which he devised to his son John (born around 1530). John the father had granted this property to him on 20 Apr 1555, where John Jr was described as John of Waldron. To his son Edward (born about 1536) John Senior devised the tenement at Waldron called Selwyns, also with the requirement to pay Johan 26s 8d for life. Johan was required to bring up Edward till he came of age. He left to son Thomas 26s 8d and to three of his daughters Katherine, Alice and Thomasine he left 6s and a mark. To daughter Elizabeth he left £10 and all her own cattle. To John Payne son of brother William Payne and to John son of his brother Edward Payne he left a year old bullock each. John Payne the son of Edward was probably the earliest John at Plawhatch (see Part 4).A family of the name of Pickas, Pycas, or Pykas, were at Brambletye circa 1579. James Pickas held it in this year. John Payne held the Tanhouse Mead of three acres in East Grinstead of James Pickas, gent., as of his Manor of Brambletie, in free socage by fealty and rent of 7d., the mead being valued at 6s. (From History of East Grinstead).
The William Payne mentioned in John of Brambletye’s will was a witness to a bargain and sale in Waldron on 23 Apr 1540 (SAS-RF/2/48-ESRO)
From the court rolls of the Manor of Laughton dated 7 Oct 1561 (SAS RF/2/72 ESRO) John was admitted to 5 ac in Waldron of which the father John died seised. Shortly after this John died and the rolls show that his son of three was admitted to the land (SAS RF/2/73-ESRO) on 22 Jul 1563 in the person of his mother Clemence, who had remarried as Clemence Luxford.
In John’s will he devised to his son John the lands and tenements in Waldron called Woodplace, when John reached 21 years. This son John had been christened in East Grinstead on 23 Jun 1560. John was an overseer to the will of John Feldwicke of West Hoathly dated 7 Feb 1560/1 who also had Thomas Payne of Stone as an overseer. John Feldwicke was the brother-in-law of John Payne of Wickham in Lindfield so there was a clear kinship between all these Paynes and in fact if my assumptions are correct, John of Brambletye, John of Wickham and Thomas of Stone were all second cousins.
The story of John the son (born 1560) and of the brother Edward continues in Waldron. A survey of the Manor of Tanners made in Oct 1570 by Edward Worseleye in full court of Sir Thomas Sackvill, knt. Lord Buckehurst, by the oaths of Edward Payne, John a Wood, and Robert Bonewicke it was reported that John Howell holds freely by charter certain lands called Selwines containing 20 ac. adjacent to lands of Edw. Payne and John a Wood, N., W. and S. and to the queen's highway from Waldron Down to Waldron Church, rent 2s.2d., heriot and relief. This John Howell had property in the Eastbourne area and his daughter Margaret married James Payne of Meads, a descendent of John Payne and Gunnora whom I surmise were also the ancestors of Edward Payne of Selwins.
By the end of the century both John and Edward was living in Berwick but retained control of properties in Waldron. The Berwick registers don’t begin till 1606 but a will and several documents confirm their presence there. Edward was in Waldron until at least 21 Feb 1573/4 when his son Thomas was baptized. Edward who inherited Selwyns had at least three children baptised in Waldron; Eleanor (6 Feb 1568/9), Anne (16 Dec 1571) and Thomas (21 Feb 1572/3). Edward appeared in the survey of the Manor of Tanners as noted above.
The move to Berwick is of interest since Berwick is not adjacent to Waldron but falls in the area where the Paynes of Eastbourne were living. Edward appeared in documents dated 1586 and 1588 in Berwick and Edward Payne of Berwick was a surety for Anne Payne of Seaford on 8 Mar 1594/5 at her marriage to Thomas Walker of Bedingham. He is probably the Edward Payne who on 17 Mar 1580 surrendered two tenements called Ballsocks and Myllands with 100ac land in Heathfield to the use of Thomas Osborne (SAS/RF/3/174 – ESRO). These lands came into the occupation of Edward Payne on 7 Sep 1574 (Copy of Court Roll of the Manor of Heithfelde SAS-RF/3/173 -ESRO 7 Sep 1574).
John Payne was in East Grinstead in 1579 but died in Berwick about Jul 1597 and left a will dated 9 Jun 1597, proved 13 Jul 1597. A bargain and sale document dated 23 Sept 1597 (SAS RF/2/75-ESRO) by Stephen Dungatt of Eastgrinsted, yeoman, and Thomas Payne of Berwicke, yeoman, executors of John Payne’s will and Edward Payne of Berwicke, yeoman, and Thomas Walker of Bedingham, yeoman, the overseers to John Fuller of Tanners in Waldron, for £370 which comprised the freehold messuages, lands and tenements called Woodplace and Tanners, then occupied by Isaac Freeman.
In 1600 (SAS RF/2/77 – ESRO) there was a release by Edward Payne, Thomas Walker, Stephen Dungate and Thomas Payne to John Fuller for £215 of a yearly rent of £15 issuing out of the premises called Woodplace and Tanners in Waldron. In 1606 (SAS RF/2/78) there was a ratification of the 1597 sale by John Payne of Willingdon, blacksmith, son and heir of John Payne late of Berwick.
John Payne of Willingdon married Joan Russell in Jevington in 1617 and had one child called Mary in 1619 but Joan died in 1622. This Payne line died out when John’s daughter Mary married William Thayre of Willingdon in 1638.
Thus we can now track the descendents of John of Brambletye to Willingdon, but from here the trail goes cold.
In the next installment I will cover the other Payne families of East Grinstead as well as in Selmeston and in the Petworth area.