Peter Brown Family History

Robert Payne (c1460)

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General History

Robert Payne was not one of my direct ancestors but may be related to me as later indirect generations of a direct ancestor..

Robert Payne was possibly born around 1460. He was maybe possibly the son of Thomas Payne & Agnes. He was fined for 'tenements' in East Grinstead under Henry Vii (1487/88)

THE STRUCTURE BELOW IS STILL EVOLVING and is probably wrong in parts

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Robert Payne had at least two children, probably more- All details taken from Source 1& 2

  1. John Payne (Senior) was born in about 1480 probably in East Grinstead. He left a 'Will' dated 8th July 1507 and proved 9th October 1508 and presumably died in 1508. He married Elizabeth who was executor to his 'Will'. He held the manor of Pickstones (Pyckesdonns) in Forest Row which Elizabeth inherited and then son John. John & Elizabeth had at least four children.
    1. John Payne was born in about 1500 probably in East Grinstead . He is shown in the Lay subsidy Rolls of 1524/25 in the Hundred of East Grinstead as being taxed on assets worth £10 . He purchased land in East Grinstead in 1540 and he was named in cousin John Payne of the Wald 'Will' of 1546. He married Joan. John left a 'Will' dated 8th August 1558 and died prior to October 1558. John & Joan had at least seven children.
      1. George Payne was born in about 1524 probably in East Grinstead. He was mentioned in his father John's 'Will' of 1558 as unmarried.
      2. John Payne was born in about 1526 probably in East Grinstead. He was mentioned in his father John's 'Will' of 1558. He married Alice. John was buried on 30th March 1588 in East Grinstead, Sussex (' of Pickstones') and Alice was buried there on 4th January 1599 ('Alice, widow of John of Pickstones). John & Alice probably had at least two children (mentioned but unnamed in his father's 'Will' of 1558).
        1. John Payne was born in about 1554 probably in East Grinstead (derived as no birth record exists). John had maybe eight children (source 2).
          1. John Payne was baptised on 20th February 1581 in East Grinstead, Sussex '(son of John Paine junior of Pickstones'). He maybe married Margaret. John was possibly buried on 16th May 1633 in East Grinstead, Sussex (' John of Pickstones') and Margaret was possibly buried there on 13th February 1637 ('widow'). John & Margaret had six children.
            1. John Payne was baptised on 17th September 1615 in East Grinstead, Sussex
            2. Margaret Payne was baptised on 6th July 1617 in East Grinstead, Sussex
            3. Edward Payne was baptised on 4th March 1619 in East Grinstead, Sussex
            4. Anne Payne (An) was baptised on 11th March 1621 in East Grinstead, Sussex
            5. William Payne was baptised on 17th July 1625 in East Grinstead, Sussex
          2. Thomas Payne was baptised on 27th January 1583 in East Grinstead, Sussex ('son of John of Pickstones'). He was buried there on 20th December 1598 ('Thomas, son of John of Pickstones')
          3. Elizabeth Payne was baptised on 5th April 1585 in East Grinstead, Sussex ('daughter of John of Pickstones').
          4. Joan Payne was buried on 8th August 1587 in East Grinstead, Sussex ('daughter of John of Pickstones')..
          5. Sackville Payne was baptised on 28th September 1589 in East Grinstead, Sussex (of Pickstones) and was buried there on 18th October 1589 ('son of John Payne of Pickstones').
          6. Jeremy Payne (Jeremie) was baptised on 10th January 1591 in East Grinstead, Sussex (of Pickstones). He married Joan Crippes (Johane) on 5th September 1614 in East Grinstead, Sussex . Jeremy & Joan had three children. Jeremy probably secondly married Jane Humphrey on 23rd June 1628 in Southover, Sussex. (license issued at Lewes and shows Jeremy Payne of Eastgrinsted, yeoman, & Jane Humphray of same, maiden with additional sureties by John Payne of same, yeoman).
            1. John Payne was baptised in September 1615 in East Grinstead, Sussex
            2. Dorothy Payne was baptised on 2nd February 1621 in East Grinstead, Sussex
            3. Jeremy Payne was baptised on 27th February 1623 in East Grinstead, Sussex. He married Mary Garrett on 3rd July 1649 in East Grinstead, Sussex.
          7. Anne Payne was baptised on 8th October 1592 in East Grinstead, Sussex ('daughter of John of Pickstones').
          8. William Payne was baptised on 6th March 1596 in East Grinstead, Sussex ('son of John Payne of Pickstones'.
      3. Thomas Payne was born in about 1528 probably in East Grinstead. He was mentioned in his father John's 'Will' of 1558 as were two unnamed children of Thomas..
      4. Clemence Payne was born in about 1530 probably in East Grinstead. She was mentioned in her father John's 'Will' of 1558 as Clemence Farley. John Farley was also mentioned in John Payne's'Will' of 1558 as Overseer & Witness.
      5. William Payne was born in about 1532 probably in East Grinstead. He was mentioned in his father John's 'Will' of 1558.
      6. Catherine Payne was born in about 1534 probably in East Grinstead. She was mentioned in her father John's 'Will' of 1558 as Catherine Sylcott.
      7. Agnes Payne was born in about 1536 probably in East Grinstead. She was mentioned in her father John's 'Will' of 1558 as Agnes Webbe.
    2. George Payne was born in about 1500 probably in East Grinstead. He was mentioned in father's will of 1507. He married Agnes and had children. He left a 'Will' dated 29th August 1537 and proved 7th November 1538 and presumably died in 1538. George & Agnes had at least four children but she was pregnant at the time of George's death and only the first four below are mentioned in the 'Will'..
      1. John Payne was born in about 1532 probably in East Grinstead, Sussex.- He was mentioned in father's will of 1537 and inherited Burstow park. He married Mary Mabbe, daughter of Nicholas Mabbe of Hamsey. John left a 'Will' dated 12th December 1579 and he died on 19th January and was buried on 20th January 1580 in East Grinstead, Sussex.('of ye Towne').
      2. Joan Payne was born in about 1534 probably in East Grinstead, Sussex.She was mentioned in her father's will of 1537.
      3. Edward Payne was born in about 1536 probably in East Grinstead, Sussex. He was mentioned in father's 'Will' of 1537 and was overseer to his brother John's 'Will' of 1579 and was shown as aged 40. He married Katheryn Losco. Details of Edward Payne & Katherine Losco are shown separately.
      4. Clemence Payne was born in about 1537 probably in East Grinstead, Sussex. She was mentioned in her father's 'Will' of 1537 and in her brother John Payne's 'Will' of 1579 as sister Clemence Farley. She possibly married John Farley in about 1556 and had children Daniel, John, Harry, Elizabeth, Judy, Fortune, Katherine & Joan (all under 21 in 1579). John and the children were named in brother John Payne's 'Will' of 1579, (plus George born 1566). .
      5. George Payne was born in 1539 probably in East Grinstead, Sussex (derived as no birth record exists-wife pregnant on husbands death -see narative above on father- but could be children of George son of John - see 1 A i). He married Mildred Duffeld. George & Mildred had five children (source 2)
        1. George Payne was baptised on 24th June 1565 in East Grinstead, Sussex (son of George & Mildred)
        2. Fortune Payne was baptised on 1st January 1568 in East Grinstead, Sussex (dau of George)
        3. John Payne was baptised on 1st January 1570 in East Grinstead, Sussex (son of George). He maybe had maybe four children (but these children may be allocated to the wrong John Payne).
          1. George Payne was baptised on 13th January 1594 in East Grinstead, Sussex ('of Blackwell')
          2. Edward Payne was baptised on 12th September 1596 in East Grinstead, Sussex ('son of John of Blackwell') and he was buried there on 20th October 1596 ('son of John of Blackwell')
          3. Rachell Payne was baptised on 20th November 1597 in East Grinstead, Sussex ('of Blackwell')
          4. William Payne was baptised on 5th July 1601 in East Grinstead, Sussex ('son of John of Blackwell')
        4. Edward Payne was baptised on 3rd August 1572 in East Grinstead, Sussex.
        5. William Payne was baptised on 14th February 1574 in East Grinstead, Sussex
    3. other daughters mentioned in father's 'Will' of 1507, but not named.
  2. John Payne (Junior) was born in about 1485 probably in East Grinstead. He inherited "Shoebery's" in Ashhurstwood under his brother's will of 1507 and named as Overseer. He is shown in the Lay subsidy Rolls of 1524/25 in the Hundred of East Grinstead as 'John Payne the younger' and as being taxed on assets worth £1 6s 8d. John Payne the younger was 50 in 1533 when he appeared as a witness at the Star Chamber as John Payne of Walehill (source 11). John had a child
    1. John Payne was born in about 1510 probably in East Grinstead and he lived at Wald Farm, East Grinstead. He married Clemence (Clement). John left a 'Will' proved on 1st December 1546 and Clemence left a 'Will' dated 1st September 1559 and was proved 8th March 1560 and presumably died in 1560. John & Clemence had maybe eight children.
      1. John Payne was born in about 1535 probably in East Grinstead. He was mentioned in his father's 'Will' of 1546 and in his mother's 'Will' of 1559 (and had children) and inherited 'Showberis' in Ashurstwood . He married Margaret. Margaret was buried on 9th May 1589 in East Grinstead, Sussex (' wife of John of Assherst') and John was buried there on 31st December 1597 ('John of Asherhurstwood'). John & Margaret had two known children.
        1. Elizabeth Payne was baptised on 30th May 1584 in East Grinstead, Sussex ('of Assherstwood').
        2. Henry Payne was buried on 5th January 1588 in East Grinstead, Sussex. ('Harrie son of John of Assherst').
      2. Thomas Payne was born in about 1540 probably in East Grinstead. He was mentioned in his father's 'Will' of 1546 and in his mother's 'Will' of 1559. He married Joan (Johane) who was buried on 20th May 1585 on East Grinstead, Sussex (' wife of Thomas'). Thomas & Joan had seven known children. Thomas maybe married secondly Marie Kingwood on 5th November 1585 in East Grinstead, Sussex.
        1. Joan Payne (Joane) was baptised on 4th July 1573 in East Grinstead, Sussex (no parents shown)
        2. Thomas Payne was baptised on 4th July 1573 in East Grinstead, Sussex (no parents shown)
        3. Thomas Payne was baptised on 12th December 1574 in East Grinstead, Sussex and he was buried there on 27th January 1576 (' son of Thomas')
        4. Anne Payne was probably born in East Grinstead, Sussex and was buried there on 12th July 1577 ('Ann, daughter of Thomas')
        5. Edward Payne was baptised on 22nd May 1580 in East Grinstead, Sussex
        6. Ano Payne was probably born in East Grinstead, Sussex and was buried there on 26th September 1582 ('son of Thomas').
        7. Eleanor Payne was probably born in East Grinstead, Sussex and was buried there on 12th September 1585 ('Elener, daughter of Thomas')
      3. Henry Payne was born in about 1530 probably in East Grinstead. Had lease of Wald Farm in East Grinstead under fathers 'Will' of 1546 and was mentioned in his mother's 'Will' of 1559. He married Elizabeth Humphrey (Humffrie) on 19th October 1563 in East Grinstead, Sussex. Henry left a 'Will' dated 9th May 1580 and he was buried on 4th January 1581 in East Grinstead, Sussex ('Harrie Paine of Wallhill'). Elizabeth was mentioned in her husband's 'Will' of 1580 and was maybe buried on 18th December 1580 in East Grinstead, Sussex (shown as 'Mother Payne'). ( SxG says January 1581 but not in register). Henry & Elizabeth had six known children.
        1. Robert Payne was born in about 1550 probably in East Grinstead. He was mentioned in his father's 'Will' of 1580 (as executor & prime beneficiary). He maybe married secondly Agnes Fletcher on 27th November 1597 in Friston, Sussex. Robert left a 'Will' dated 1612 and he was buried on 21st May 1612 . Agnes was mentioned in her husband's 'Will' of 1612.
          1. Richard Payne was born in about 1570 probably in Forest Row, East Grinstead, Sussex. He was mentioned in his father's 'Will' of 1612 as executor (plus his unnamed children). He possibly married Elizabeth. Richard left a 'Will' dated 1628 and he was buried on 18th June 1628 in East Grinstead, Sussex.
          2. Elizabeth Payne was possibly baptised on 16th September 1571 probably in Forest Row, East Grinstead, Sussex (no parents shown). She married John Balcombe (or Bawcombe) on 6th December 1590 in East Grinstead, Sussex. John & Elizabeth had four children (Elizabeth Bawcombe, Silvester Bawcombe, John Bawcombe, Robert Bawcombe) who were mentioned in their grandfather Robert Payne's 'Will' of 1612.
          3. Eleanor Payne was possibly baptised on 31st January 1574 probably in Forest Row, East Grinstead, Sussex (no parents shown - Eliener). She was mentioned in her father's 'Will' of 1612 (as Elinor). She married Nicholas Cowper (or Coupper) on 17th November 1601 in East Grinstead, Sussex (shown as Ellyner). Nicholas was mentioned in Robert Payne's 'Will' of 1612 as son in law (plus his unnamed children).
        2. Richard Payne was possibly baptised on 24th August 1565 in East Grinstead, Sussex (parents not shown). He was mentioned in his father's 'Will' of 1580. He probably married Mary and had six children.
          1. Frances Payne (Frauncis, dau) was baptised on 26th March 1598 in East Grinstead, Sussex.
          2. Mary Payne (Marrye)was baptised on 9th March 1600 in East Grinstead, Sussex.
          3. Robert Payne was baptised on 12th September 1602 in East Grinstead, Sussex.
          4. Anne Payne (Annys) was baptised on 11th August 1605 in East Grinstead, Sussex.
          5. Judith Payne (Jeudeth) was baptised on 28th October 1607 in East Grinstead, Sussex.
          6. Richard Payne was baptised on 21st July 1611 in East Grinstead, Sussex ('son of Richard & Mary'). He possibly married Susan Wicking (see Drew Wicking 1569 ref 8) on 8th September 1631 at Lewes (License issued at Lewes and Richard shown as yeoman of Eastgrinsted & Susan "Wicken" of same, maiden with sureties by Thomas Velvicke of same) .
            1. Joan Payne was baptised on 17th September 1632 in East Grinstead, Sussex.
            2. Robert Payne was baptised on 4th October 1635 in East Grinstead, Sussex. Robert married Lydia Quittenden and had five children (Susan (1657), Elizabeth, Margaret, Richard & William)
            3. Mary Payne was baptised on 9th February 1637 in East Grinstead, Sussex.
            4. Anne Payne was baptised on 15th November 1640 in East Grinstead, Sussex.
            5. Judith Payne was baptised on 16th February 1645 in East Grinstead, Sussex.
            6. Anne Payne was baptised on 27th March 1647 in East Grinstead, Sussex.
            7. William Payne was baptised on 1th April 1649 in East Grinstead, Sussex.
            8. John Payne was baptised on 13th December 1651 in East Grinstead, Sussex.
        3. Edward Payne was born in about 1568 probably in East Grinstead. He was mentioned in his father's 'Will' of 1580
        4. John Payne was born in about 1570 probably in East Grinstead. He was mentioned in his father's 'Will' of 1580. He maybe had children.
        5. Joyce Payne was born in about 1572 probably in East Grinstead. She was mentioned in her father's 'Will' of 1580 as unmarried.
        6. Joan Payne was born in about 1574 probably in East Grinstead. She was mentioned in her father's 'Will' of 1580 as unmarried.
      4. Simon Payne was born in about 1540 probably in East Grinstead. He was mentioned in his father's 'Will' of 1546 and was executor to his mother's 'Will' of 1559.
      5. Agnes Payne was born in about 1540 probably in East Grinstead. She was mentioned in her father's 'Will' of 1546.
      6. Joan Payne (Joane) was born in about 1540 probably in East Grinstead. She was mentioned in her father's 'Will' of 1546 and in her mother's 'Will' of 1559.
      7. Julian Payne was born in about 1540 probably in East Grinstead. She was mentioned in her father's 'Will' of 1546 (as unmarried) and in her mother's 'Will' of 1559 (as married with children).
      8. Alice Payne was born in about 1540 probably in East Grinstead. She was mentioned in her father's 'Will' of 1546 (as unmarried and under 20) and in her mother's 'Will' of 1559.

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John Payne (ref 1 A above), son of John Payne (the Elder), had succeeded his parents at Pixtons.
In 1532 William Tomson granted the land at Lower Gibbs Farm to John Payne in East Grinstead, Sussex. The Felbridge History group has this as John of Brambletye but later documents indicate that it is more likely to be John of Pyckstones. On 20th May 1538, John Payne granted [Lower] Gibbes to Michael Egerton and the land then descended to his son Thomas Egerton. This property was part of the Manor of Walsted other parts of which as we have seen was also farmed by the Payne family in Lindfield (Felbridge and District History Group). In 1541 William Chalfroft, John Payne and John Myles are paid to enclose the land called Mylwoode (ESRO SAS/G43/87) Then in November 1542, John Payne who held Gybbes at fenne, sold six acres being part of Gybbes at fenne to John Jewell de Lymsfield. These six acres probably refer to the property formerly known as Honey’s alias Cuhling Croft (later known as Little Gibbshaven). Twenty years later in 1562, the Court Book for the manor of Hedgecourt records John Bysshe paying rent for Gibbs Att ffen, containing twenty acres at that date, but unfortunately it has not yet been possible to determine when John Bysshe succeeded John Payne at Gibbs Att fen. (Source 11).
His descendants seem to have owned Pixtons farm until, in 1615, John Payne, sen., of Pickstones, and Elizabeth, his wife, sold it to John Goodwin, gent., from whose family it seems to have passed to Mr. John Conyers, who married a Miss Goodwin and was M.P. for East Grinstead in 1695, and later it belonged to Mr. Wicken and the Trulock family. In 1615 the Manor of Pixtons seems to have consisted of one messuage, one barn, one garden, one orchard, 20 acres of arable land, 16 acres of meadow land, 14 acres of pasture, four acres of wood and three acres of moorland, all in East Grinstead, and the whole appears to have been acquired by John Goodwin for the modest sum of £100. This John (great great grandson of John the Elder - see ref 1 A ii a I above) may have remained as a tenant for at his burial in 1633 he was still referred to as John Payne of Pyckstones. (source 10)

George Payne (ref 1 B above), son of John Payne, of Pixtons was evidently a yeoman of good substance . His father in 1507 had devised to him the tenement of Beeches (in AshurstWood), but whether George lived there we have no certain information beyond the fact that he seems from the evidence of his own will to have undertaken repair of the road between Forest Row and East Grinstead.
He owned Burstow Park (in Surrey) which to left to his son John in his 'Will'). See also Richard Infield for more description and confusion about Burstow Park.

George Payne left two sons, John and Edward, who both became prominent townsmen of East Grinstead.

John Payne (ref 1 B i above), the elder son of George Payne was connected with the old almshouses in Church Street, and he was also one of the burgesses of East Grinstead to whom the silver seal was presented in 1572, and a prosperous ironmaster (source 10). His properties included the tenement at "Smythes fforge (or Smythes Fourth) which his father George had acquired on 28 Jan 1535 in a grant from Roger Aven of Worth(SAS/G43/30). The property was occupied by Joseph Duffield and John Larke and situated in East Grinstead. In this grant he also acquired the lands called Honneys in Worth. An inquisition was held in East Grinstead on 21 March 1580 in which it was stated that his heir, was brother Edward Payne, aged 40 actually he had to be at least 41 since his father died in 1538). George’s lands called "Gaynesfords", "Connyclappers", "Lanefeld" were settled on Mary his wife for life,"Tannershyll", "Palmers", "Stonefield" etc., all in East Grinstead and came to Edward following her death (sources 10 & 11 and also Archive item 2 - PM Inquistion).

Edward Payne (ref 1 B iii above), the younger son of George Payne, born about 1536, was buried at East Grinstead in 1599 as "Edward Paine the Elder." He was a burgess of East Grinstead.
Their eldest son Edward (1560-1642) became the direct ancestor of a long line of Paynes " of the Town," who, as ironmasters and landowners, rose to considerable affluence in East Grinstead and the neighbouring district during the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries. See Edward Payne & Katherine Losco for further details.

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  1. Taken from 'History of East Grinstead'. the Payne family , descended from John Payne of Plawhatch, was quite distinct from the " Paynes of the towne,". They occupied small farms on the extreme south border of our large parish and on the verge of Ashdown Forest; such farms were Plawhatch, Legsheath, Monks-hill, Mawles, Walesbeech and, later, Charlwoods, and all owned by some member of the family of what we may call the Paynes of Legsheath, though they seem to have been earlier known as the Paynes of Plawhatch. A bird's-eye view of John Payne's ancestry may be given as follows, and its connection with farms in the parish gives it special interest:—
    1. John Payne, of Monkshill, Yeoman (probably of Plawhatch in 1562), owned freehold lands called Malls ; buried at East Grinstead as John Payne, senr., of Monkhill, in 1597.
    2. John Payne, of Maules, Yeoman, owned 7 acres at Buncegrove, called Baches, Legsheath and Dockets ; died 1624.
    3. William Payne, of Walesbeech, Yeoman, owned Legsheath, Maules, Dockets ; buried at East Grinstead as William Paine, of
      Walesbeech, 1657.
    4. William Payne, of Maules, Yeoman (5th son), owned Legsheath and Monkshill; died 1658 ; by his will " to be buried at
      East Grinstead."
    5. William Payne, of Legsheath, owned Velvicks; his brothers, Edward and Robert, lived at Maules and Monkshill; buried at
      East Grinstead as Mr. Wm. Payne, of Legsheath, 1727.
    6. John Payne, of Legslieath, Esqre., owned Maules, while his cousin, Edward, owned Monkshill; Sheriff of Sussex 1738 ; buried at East Grinstead as " John Payne, Esq.," 1760.
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Wills:

  1. John Payne (family ref 1) left a 'Will' dated 8th July 1507 and was proved on 9th October 1508. (Ref PCC Prob 11/16/121). The link is to a transcript of the 'Will'. The 'Will' mentions his wife Elizabeth, his sons John, George,; his brother John junior.
  2. John Payne (family ref 1 A) left a 'Will' dated 8th August 1558 and was proved on 28th October 1558. The link is to a transcript of the 'Will'. In the 'Will' he mentions his wife Joan (Johane); his sons George (unmarried), John, Thomas, William ; his daughters Clemence Farly, Catherine Sylcott, Agnes Webb; his grandchildren unnamed children of John, unnamed two of Thomas; Others John Farley, John Norton, John Bedlam; The 'Will' was witnessed by John Payn ye younger, Rychard Wynson and John Farley.
  3. George Payne (family ref 1 B) left a 'Will' dated 29th August 1537 and was proved on 7th November 1538.. (Ref PCC Prob 11/27/338). The link is to a transcript of the 'Will'. In the 'Will' he mentions his wife Agnes; his daughters Joan, Clemence; his sons John, Edward; his brother John; Others were Unborn child.
  4. John Payne (family ref 1 B i) left a 'Will' dated 12th December 1579 and proved 21st January 1581 (Ref PCC Prob 11/63/36). The link is to a transcript of the 'Will'. In the 'Will' he mentions his wife Mary; his brother Edward Payne and his children Mildred Payne (under 21),Edward Payne (Executor) and George Payne; his sister Clemence Farley plus John Farley and his children Daniell, John, Harrie, Elizabeth, Judeth, Fortune, Katherine and Johan (all under 21) ; his kinsman Benjamin Heyte ; his cousin Roger Heyte, John Payne son of George Payne Taylor ; his servants John Underhill, Alice Taylor . Others mentioned were John Duffield, Joseph Duffield and John Larke. Also James Duffield, Stephen French and George Harman, (church wardens of Eastgreensteade); Overseers were Brother Edward Payne and Edward Goodwyn. Witnesses were Edwarde Goodwyne, John Squier the elder and John Goodwyne. Properties mentioned: Burstow Park, Palmers, Tannhill, the Le Stonefield, Tannfields, Shorte croft, Stringers, the Coney Clappers, Symons, mannor of Imberhorne.
  5. John Payne (family ref 2 A) left a 'Will' proved on 1st December 1546.
  6. Clement Payne (family ref 2 A) left a 'Will' dated 1st September 1559 and was proved 8th March 1560 (ref Chichester X, 66).
  7. Henry Payne (family ref 2 A iii) left a 'Will' dated 9th May 1580 and proved 13th January 1581 (ref Lewes A7.P180). The link is to a Transcript of the 'Will'. The 'Will' mentions his wife Elizabeth; his sons Robert (executor & prime beneficiary), Richard, Edward, John; his daughters Joyce (unmarried), Joan (unmarried) ; Others were Jone Monke the daughter of Peter Monke, John Milles; Overseers were Richard Lisne and John Duffeld the elder ; Witnesses were Richard Burnopp, vicar of Estgrinsted, Richard Lisne & John Duffeld.
  8. Robert Payne (family ref 2 A iii a) left a 'Will' dated 1612 and was proved on 28th September 1612 (Lewes A14.P37).The link is to a Transcript of the 'Will'. The 'Will' mentions his wife Agnes ; his son Richard (executor) (& his children) ; his daughter Elinor ; Others were Elizabeth Bawcombe, Silvester Bawcombe, John Bawcombe, Robert Bawcombe ; his son in law Nicholas Cowper (& his children) . Overseers were John Payne of Pickstones and William Pickett . Witnesses were John Payne of Pickstones, William Pickett, Thomas Dabson, John Awood Tayler:
  9. Richard Payne (family ref 2 A iii a I) left a 'Will' dated 1628 and was proved on 19th July 1628 (Lewes A20.P110).

Archives:

  1. Buckhurst Terrier: In 1598 on a survey of the Manor of Imberhorne, Thomas Payne is recorded as owing "Benchers" in Ashhurstwood (bounds of John Leeds lands)
  2. Inqusitions:
    1. JOHN PAYNE. Vol. 191, No. 80. E. G., 21 March 22 Eliz. Died 19 Jan. 22 Eliz. (See family ref 1 B i)
      Heir, brother Edward Payne, aged 40,Lands called" Gaynesfords,"" Connyclappers,"" Lanefeld," settled 12 June 14 Eliz. on Mary his wife for life,
      " Tannershyll,"" Palmers,"" Stonefield," etc., all in East Grinstead. Made will 12 Dec. 22 Eliz. Roger Hayte my cousin George Payne, son of rny
      brother Edward P. and made Edward son of Edward Payne his brother his executor.
  3. Sussex Fines
    1. Henry VII 3265. Robert Payn and John Payn the younger, son of said Robert, v. Thomas Alfrey and Margery his wife; a messuage in
      Estgrenested ; to Robert and John and heirs of Robert.
  4. Felbridge & District History Group
    1. In January 1535, Roger Aven (atte Fenne) granted the croft of land called Honneys, as well as a croft of land called Warnetts (located to the east of Honneys), to John Gage, lord of the manor of Hedgecourt. Four years later in 1539, the Court Roll records the alienation of Honey’s alias Cuhling Croft, late of Roger att fenn, to John Payne, gentleman. Unfortunately there are several John Payne’s in the area (including the Lord of the manor of South Malling- Lindfield) and it has not yet been possible to determine which one acquired the property.
    2. In November 1542, John Payne holding Gybbes at fenne, sold six acres being part of Gybbes at fenne to John Jewell de Lymsfield. These six acres probably refer to the property formerly known as Honey’s alias Cuhling Croft (later known as Little Gibbshaven). Twenty years later in 1562, the Court Book for the manor of Hedgecourt records John Bysshe paying rent for Gibbs Att ffen, containing twenty acres at that date, but unfortunately it has not yet been possible to determine when John Bysshe succeeded John Payne at Gibbs Att ffen.
    3. Felbridge map
Sources Returns to 'Top of Page'
  1. Sussex Genealogies  (Ardingly Centre) - John Comber 1932
  2. Sussex Record Society -  East Grinstead Parish Registers 1558-1661:
  3. Sussex Parish Registers –Ardingly, Cuckfield, East Grinstead, Lindfield, West Hoathly
  4. Sussex Record Society – Marriage Licenses at Lewes 1586-1642,1670-1732, 1772-1837 (Volumes 1, 6, 25,26)
  5. Lewes Will Microfilm
  6. Sussex Family History Group-Sussex Marriage Index CD
  7. Sussex Family History Group - Baptism & Burial records
  8. Sussex Record Society - PM Inquistions summaries
  9. IGI (International Genealogical Index: Latter-day Saints) - batches of parish records: see LINKS-Research Web sites
  10. History of East Grinstead by WALLACE HENRY HILLS,1906
  11. John Howes who has written a number of papers on the History of Paynes in Sussex
  12. Felbridge & District History Group