Peter Brown Family History

Henry Payne (c1470)

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General History

Henry Payne was not one of my direct ancestors but may be related to me as later indirect generations of a direct ancestor.

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Henry Payne was maybe possibly born about 1470 in Ardingly, Sussex. He was maybe possibly the son of Thomas Payne & Agnes. He is recorded ( see Archive 2) and being involved with a sale of land in 1514. He is shown in the Lay subsidy Rolls of 1524 in the Hundred of Strete as being taxed on assets worth £5.

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Henry had at least one child

Henry
  1. Henry Payne was born in about 1510 in possibly West Hoathly, Sussex (derived as no birth record found). He married Elizabeth (see Archives item 2). In 1555 Henry lived at Ludwells in Ardingly (see Archives 5) and also owned a property called Busses. (Busses farm is now known as Holly farm and is located close to Pickeridge in West Hoathly - it should not be confused with Busses Farm in East Grinstead, located near Horseshoe Farm - source 9). Henry left a 'Will' dated 26th May 1566 and died prior to July 1566 in West Hoathly, Sussex. Henry & Elizabeth probably had at least nine children
    1. Ano Payne was possibly born in about 1536 possibly in West Hoathly, Sussex (derived as no birth record found). She possibly married John Gibb. John Gibb was mentioned in Henry Paine's 'Will' of 1566 as overseer. They had a child
      1. Henry Gibb was possibly born in about 1564 possibly in West Hoathly, Sussex (derived as no birth record found). He was mentioned in Henry Paine's 'Will' of 1566 as 'my daughter's son'.
    2. Ano Payne was possibly born in about 1538 possibly in West Hoathly, Sussex (derived as no birth record found). She possibly married a Mr Poulter. They had a child
      1. Henry Poulter was possibly born in about 1564 possibly in West Hoathly, Sussex (derived as no birth record found). He was mentioned in Henry Paine's 'Will' of 1566 as 'my daughter's son'.
    3. Ano Payne was possibly born in about 1540 possibly in West Hoathly, Sussex (derived as no birth record found). She possibly married Edward Brown. Edward Brown was mentioned in Henry Paine's 'Will' of 1566 as overseer. They had at least two children
      1. Henry Brown (Harye) was possibly born in about 1562 possibly in West Hoathly, Sussex (derived as no birth record found). He was mentioned in Henry Paine's 'Will' of 1566 as 'my daughter's son'.
      2. Edward Brown was possibly born in about 1564 possibly in West Hoathly, Sussex (derived as no birth record found). He was mentioned in Henry Paine's 'Will' of 1566 as 'my daughter's son'.
    4. Henry Payne was born in about 1544 possibly in West Hoathly, Sussex (derived as no birth record found). He was mentioned in his father's 'Will' of 1566 as joint executor & joint residual beneficiary. Archive item 3 shows date of grant of land called Busses to son on 21 Aug 1573 from mother Elizabeth (presumably on her death). Henry married Dorothy Miller (Myller) on 29th May 1580 in Reigate, Surrey (shown as Henry Paine of West Hoathly, Sussex) . He had lands "Ludwells", "Busses" & "Butchers" in West Hoathly and "Parkgate" in Ditchling. Henry left a 'Will' dated 5th September 1608 and he died on 10th September 1608 in Ditchling. Henry & Dorothy had at least seven children (see Archives item 4 & also Archives item 3). Dorothy was mentioned in her husband's 'Will' of 1608 as executor.
      1. Henry Payne was maybe possibly baptised on 18th April 1591 East Grinstead, Sussex (no parents shown ). He was mentioned in his father's 'Will' of 1608. He married Joan Hall. Details of Henry Payne & Joan Hall are shown separately.
        However this Henry may not be the correct one as Henry was possibly born in about 1589 (possible date is 27th July 1589 as he was 19 years 1 month 14 days at his fathers death (see Archives item 9-Inquisition no 3).
      2. Elizabeth Payne . She was mentioned in her father's 'Will' of 1608.
      3. Katherine Payne. She was mentioned in her father's 'Will' of 1608.
      4. Margaret Payne. She was mentioned in her father's 'Will' of 1608.
      5. Richard Payne was baptised on 14th February 1602 in Ditchling, Sussex ('Rychard son of Henry')
      6. Robert Payne was baptised on 18th August 1605 in Ditchling, Sussex ('Robartus son of Henrici')
      7. three other unnamed sons
    5. Leonard Payne was possibly born in about 1546 possibly in West Hoathly, Sussex (derived as no birth record found). He was mentioned in his father's 'Will' of 1566 as under 21 and inherited lands in Ardingly. He married Mary Drew on 28th April 1570 in Ardingly, Sussex (Lenard & Marye). Leonard & Mary had five children.
      1. Henry Payne was baptised on 3rd May 1573 in Ardingly, Sussex ('son of Lenard').
      2. Anne Payne (An Paine) was baptised on 4th September 1575 in Ardingly, Sussex ('dau of Leonard').
      3. John Payne (Paine) was baptised on 23rd November 1578 in Ardingly, Sussex ('son of Leonard') and was buried there on 28th December 1578 ('son of Leonard Paine').
      4. William Payne (Paine) was baptised on 18th April 1580 in Ardingly, Sussex ('son of Leonard').
      5. Francis Payne (Paine) was baptised on 22nd December 1583 in Ardingly, Sussex ('son of Leonard').
    6. Agnes Payne was possibly born in about 1548 possibly in West Hoathly, Sussex (derived as no birth record found). She was mentioned in her father's 'Will' of 1566 as under 21 and unmarried.
    7. Katheryn Payne (Kateryn) was possibly born in about 1550 possibly in West Hoathly, Sussex (derived as no birth record found). She was mentioned in her father's 'Will' of 1566 as under 21 and unmarried
    8. Margaret Payne was possibly born in about 1552 possibly in West Hoathly, Sussex (derived as no birth record found). She was mentioned in her father's 'Will' of 1566 as under 21 and unmarried
    9. Dorothy Payne (Dorotye) was possibly born in about 1554 possibly in West Hoathly, Sussex (derived as no birth record found). She was mentioned in her father's 'Will' of 1566 as under 21 and unmarried

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Wills:

  1. Henry Payne (family ref 1 ) left a 'Will' dated 26th May 1566 and was proved on 3rd July 1566 (ref ). The link is to a Transcript of the 'Will'. The 'Will' mentions his wife Elizabeth (executor & residual beneficiary); his sons Henry (executor & residual beneficiary), Lawrence (under 21); his daughters Agnes, Katheryn (Kateryn), Margaret, Dorothy (Dorotye) (all under 21 and unmarried) ; his grandsons Henry Gibb, Henry Pultere!!, Harye Brown, Edward Brown. Overseers were John Gibb, Edward Brown. Witnesses were John Comber, Richard Gatland, Andrew Browne, Thomas Browne. Properties mentionedwere Ludwell, Infeld + lands in Ardingly
  2. Henry Payne (family ref 1 D) left a 'Will' dated 5th September 1608 and was proved on 1st October 1608 (ref Lewes A12.P305). The link is to a Transcript of the 'Will'. The 'Will' mentions his wife Dorothy (executor); his sons Henry (under 25), 5 others un-named ; his daughters Elizabeth, Katherine, Margaret . Overseers were son in lawes John Wickham and Richard Dunton . Others were Sr Richard Michelborne knight and Ffrancis Moore. Witnesses were Jo Coulstocke, John Stapely ?,Thomas Alfree . Properties mentioned were: Ludwells, Busses and Butchers (all in West Hoathly); Parke Gate in Ditchling.

Archives:

  1. Feoffment  Add Mss 17417  10 December 1514. These documents are held at West Sussex Record Office
    Contents: From (a) John Michylburne of Erdyngleygh to (b) Thomas sone of Nicholas Culpepyr formerly of Ardingly, esq., Thomas Brygges, Richard Payne, Henry Payne bro. of N. Cylpepyr, Thomas Bykham and Edward Summer Ashcombe in Westhothleygh (West Hoathly) Acc. 2439
  2. Grant  SAS/PN/739  21 Aug 1573. These documents are held at East Sussex Record Office
    Contents: By ELIZABETH (Paine) of Westhothleigh, widow, to HENRY PAINE her son of all the free lands and tenements called Bussex in the parish of Westhothlegh which she had by gift of Hery Paine her late husband by charter of 12 Aug., 1 Eliz. To hold of the chief lords of that fee &c. Warranty
    Tag for seal. Witnesses to livery of seisin:- Richard Gatland, John Gatland, Thos. Browne (other names illegible)
  3. The Book of John Rowe (Sussex Record Society) under the manor of Plumpton, 1597 records: Auncyent freeholdes within the Bedlewycke of Plompton Buskage.This book covers for areas around Lewes details of 'fines' or 'Relief' due on succession or alienation and 'heriot' due on death. More details can be obtained from the introduction to the book (see taxation-subsidy rolls).
    1. Henry Payne for half a yard of land called Ludwell xxvjs viijd for relief and herryott ech
  4. Inqusitions:
    1. HENRY PAYNE, yeo., of West Hothly. Vol. 311, No. 108. E. G., 1 June 7 James. Died 10 Sept. 1608 at Ditchling.
      Heir, son Henry, aged 19 years 1 month 14 days. Lands." Ludwells," "Busses" and "Butchers" in W. Hothly, cottage in Ditchling. Made will 5 Sept. 6 James to wife Dorothy "Ludwells" for life, paying son Henry 3 a year at 21 other property and lands called" Parkgate" in Ditchling to be sold for
      benefit of 5 younger sons and daughter Elizabeth.
  5. In 1555 (SAS/A19 ESRO) Francis Carew of Beddington, Surrey sold John Mascall some properties along with some rents for day work due from tenants of other Carew properties. At this time Henry Payne occupied Ludwell (half yardland) and was required to pay 3 days labour or 9 pence.

 

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  1. Sussex Genealogies  (Ardingly Centre) - John Comber 1932
  2. Sussex Record Society -  East Grinstead Parish Registers 1558-1661:
  3. Sussex Parish Registers – Ardingly, East Grinstead, Lindfield, West Hoathly
  4. Sussex Record Society – Marriage Licenses at Lewes 1586-1642,1670-1732, 1772-1837 (Volumes 1, 6, 25,26)
  5. Lewes Will Microfilm
  6. Sussex Family History Group-Sussex Marriage Index CD
  7. Sussex Family History Group - Baptism & Burial records
  8. IGI (International Genealogical Index: Latter-day Saints) - batches of parish records: see LINKS-Research Web sites
  9. John Howes who has written a number of papers on the history of Paynes in Sussex