Peter Brown Family History

Edward Payne & Katherine Losco (c1536)

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General History

Edward Payne & Katherine Losco were not one of my direct ancestors but they may be related to me as later indirect generations of a direct ancestor..

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Edward Payne was born in about 1536 probably in East Grinstead, Sussex. He was the son of George Payne, son of Robert Payne see Robert Payne 1450. He was mentioned in father's 'Will' of 1537 and was overseer to his brother John's 'Will' of 1579. He married Katheryn Losco. Edward left a 'Will' dated 10th June 1599 and was buried on 14th June 1599 in East Grinstead, Sussex ('Edward the Elder'). Katherine was mentioned in her husband's 'Will' of 1599 as executor. At his death he held properties Cookes Crofte and Cookes Meade in Eastgrinstead

Katherine Losco birth details are unknown but is believed to be a wealthy widow of Nottinghamshire at the time of the marriage. Katherine was buried on 9th February 1600 in East Grinstead, Sussex (' Katerren, wife of Edward the elder').

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Edward & Katherine had maybe four children (but source 1 says three- no John).

Edward George John Mildred
  1. Edward Payne was baptised on 1st December 1560 in East Grinstead, Sussex. He was named in his uncle John Payne's 'Will' of 1579 as executor, and he was mentioned in his father's 'Will' of 1599. He married Anne Payne (Anna) on 23rd October 1583 in Twineham, Sussex. Anne was the daughter and heir of John Payne, of Hicksted, and granddaughter of John Payne, of Hicksted, who died in 1545. Edward & Anne had six children. Edward left a 'Will' dated 29th September 1639 and was buried on 27th April 1643 in East Grinstead, Sussex aged 83. Anne left a 'Will' dated 13th March 1642 and was buried on 10th November 1647 in East Grinstead, Sussex.
    1. Timothea Payne (Timothee) was baptised on 3rd October 1585 in East Grinstead, Sussex. (no parents shown,but Source 1 says Edward). She married William Alfrey on 4th May 1601 in East Grinstead, Sussex and had children.
    2. Agnes Payne was baptised on 15th September 1588 in East Grinstead, Sussex (no parents shown) and she was buried there on 14th October 1588 ('dau of Edward').
    3. Susan Payne (Suzan) was baptised on 1st November 1590 in East Grinstead, Sussex.(no parents shown,but Source 1 says Edward). She was mentioned in her grandfather Edward Payne's 'Will' of 1599. She married Thomas Dyne on 16th September 1608 in London (Banns in East Grinstead). Susan was buried on 8th November 1645 in East Grinstead, Sussex.(For further details of descendants etc see source 1). Some descendants were mentioned in Anne Payne's 'Will' of 1679.
    4. Ano Payne was buried in 1591 in East Grinstead, Sussex. ('of Edward')
    5. Edward Payne was baptised on 21st October 1593 in East Grinstead, Sussex.('of the Towne'). He married Hannah Yerwood (daughter of Richard Yerwood) on 22nd April 1619 at Southwark, London. Edward left a 'Will' dated 14th October 1658 and was buried on about 15th October 1660 in East Grinstead, Sussex (exact day not shown- between 15-19). Edward & Hannah had eleven children (For further details of descendants etc see source 1).
      1. Anne Payne was born in about 1620, probably in East Grinstead, Sussex. She was mentioned in her aunt Anne Payne's 'Will' of 1679 (as cousin, wife of John Mitchelborne of Newick). She married John Michelborne on 29th April 1639 in East Grinstead, Sussex (John of Newick).
      2. Edward Payne was born in about 1622, probably in East Grinstead, Sussex. He was named in his Grandfather and his father's 'Will' (source 1) and he was mentioned in his aunt Anne Payne's 'Will' of 1679 (as cousin & executor). He married Elizabeth Newman and had thirteen children (Anne (1643), Hannah, Timothea, Anne, Elizabeth, Edward, Timothea, Edward, Susanna, Charity, Elizabeth, John, Susanna). Wife Elizabeth, son John (under 21 & only son) and youngest daughter Elizabeth were mentioned in their aunt Anne Payne's 'Will' of 1679 (as cousins) and John inherited Goodwicke in East Grinstead.
      3. Richard Payne was born in about 1624, probably in East Grinstead, Sussex. He was named in his Grandfather and his father's 'Will' (source 1) and he was mentioned in his aunt Anne Payne's 'Will' of 1679 (as cousin). He owned Gravetye & Wildgoose in West Hoathly, Burstow Park in Surrey (in 1660) and Redehall in Burstow. He married Elizabeth Alcocke on 21st August 1656 in Lewes, Sussex and had six children (Richard, John, William, Richard, Elizabeth & Anne).
      4. Susan Payne was born in about 1626, probably in East Grinstead, Sussex. She was named in her Grandfather's 'Will' (source 1). She married Robert Pickering on 3rd February 1652 in East Grinstead, Sussex.
      5. Timothy Payne was born in about 1628, probably in East Grinstead, Sussex. She was named in her Grandfather and his father's 'Will' (source 1)
      6. John Payne was baptised on 1st August 1630 in East Grinstead, Sussex.
      7. Katherine Payne was baptised on 22nd July 1632 in East Grinstead, Sussex. She was possibly mentioned in her aunt Anne Payne's 'Will' of 1679 (as neice, Mrs Katherine Payne)
      8. Robert Payne was baptised on 14th September 1634 in East Grinstead, Sussex. He was mentioned in his aunt Anne Payne's 'Will' of 1679 (as cousin).
      9. George Payne was born in about 1636, probably in East Grinstead, Sussex. He was named in his Grandfather and his father's 'Will' (source 1)
      10. Charles Payne was baptised on 25th September 1638 in East Grinstead, Sussex. He was mentioned in his aunt Anne Payne's 'Will' of 1679 (as cousin). He married Judith Cole on 1st July 1658 in East Grinstead, Sussex and had four children (Hannah, Anne, Edward, John)
      11. Henry Payne was baptised on 20th September 1640 in East Grinstead, Sussex. He was mentioned in his aunt Anne Payne's 'Will' of 1679 (as cousin).
    6. John Payne was probably born in about 1595 in East Grinstead, Sussex and was buried there on 31stOctober 1595 ('son of Edward')
    7. Catherine Payne was baptised on 17th April 1597 in East Grinstead, Sussex. (For further details of descendants etc see source 1).
    8. Anne Payne was baptised on 6th December 1601 in East Grinstead, Sussex. Anne left a 'Will' dated 28th June 1679 and was buried on 26th December 1680 in East Grinstead, Sussex.
  2. George Payne was born about 1562 probably in East Grinstead, Sussex. He was mentioned in his uncle John Payne's 'Will' of 1579 and he was mentioned in his father's 'Will' of 1599. George left a 'Will' dated 17th May 1620 and proved 5th August 1620 and presumably died in 1620.
  3. John Payne was baptised on 1st January 1564 in East Grinstead, Sussex.
  4. Mildred Payne was baptised on 2nd May 1568 in East Grinstead, Sussex. She was mentioned in her uncle John Payne's 'Will' of 1579.


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Edward Payne (1536-1599) the younger son of the of George Payne, born about 1536, was buried at East Grinstead in 1599 as "Edward Paine the Elder." He was a burgess of East Grinstead.
In a survey of the Manor of Imberhorne, recorded in The Buckhurst Terrier (1598), Edward Payne the elder was recorded as a copyholder in the parishes of East Grinstead & Hoathleigh and held by copy dated 18 Sep 26 Eliz, (i.e 1576) part of the tenement (5 acres) "Bealings", the tenement (19 acres) at "Leane", a barn and 30 acres called "Butlers & Tilkherst". The Buckhurst Terrier also recorded that Edward Paine was a juror with Stephen Dungate, Edward Paine, Walter Humphrey, Thomas Treape, Thomas Velvick (Feldwick) & others, on a survey of the Manor of Imberhorne. Edward was also recorded as a freeholder in the parish of East Grinstead and that he held a meadow (7 acres) called “Cooks". Edward left a will in which his house was left to son George but ignored Edward yet it is Edward who became the most prominent Payne in East Grinstead. (Source 11 & Archives)

Edward Payne (1560-1643) and descendants who, as ironmasters and landowners, rose to considerable affluence in East Grinstead and the neighbouring district during the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries. In the 1598 survey of the Manor of Imberhorne, Edward Payne the younger was recorded as a copyholder in the parishes of East Grinstead & Hoathleigh and he held by copy dated 15 Sep 22 Eliz, (i.e 1580) land (30 acres) called "Fellands" Also in the 1598 survey of the Manor of Imberhorne, Edward Payne junior was recorded as a freeholder in the parish of East Grinstead and that he holds lands (14 acres) called "Hillfield" & "Brodefield".(Both citations from Buckhurst Terrier). In 1599 he had Cromwell house built in East Grinstead high street.(Source 11 & Archives)

Edward Payne (1593-1660) was Sheriff of Sussex in 1644.
At his death he owned freeholds, burgages and Portlands in East Grinstead and Hartfield, the manor and lands of Gravetye and Wildgoose, Goddenwick Farm in Lindfield, John Bartholomew's house in East Grinstead, Cooke's Mead (ten acres held of Irnberhorne Manor), Pilsliers or Gallows Croft (three acres near East Grinstead Common and now forming part of the Halsford estate), the manor and farm of Burley Arches in Worth, a farm and lands in Barcombe and the manors and farm of Chiddingly in West Hoathly. The Hicksted property in Twineham thus came to the Paynes of East Grinstead by marriage in 1583. Other properties, including Chiddingley in West Hoathly passed from Edward to his son Charles and eventually to Edward’s great granddaughter Ann Payne the wife of Gibbs Crawfurd of Saint Hill. He also purchased Gravetye from Henry Faulconer in 1651 (see Richard Infield for further details).(Sources 10 & 11).
His eldest son Edward Edward was bailiff of the borough town. The second son Richard (1629- 1694), a considerable landowner, settled at Lewes and there founded a thriving family, he himself being Sheriff of Sussex in 1690, and his son Richard becoming M.P. for Lewes at intervals between 1702 and 1707. The third son, Robert (1632-1708), of Newick and East Grinstead, founded in East Grinstead the Free School. In the year 1661, we find them applying for, and obtaining, a grant of arms from the Heralds' College,duly issued to " Edward Payne, Richard, Robert, Charles and Henry, his brothers, the sons of Mr. Edward Payne, late of East Grinstead, in the County of Sussex, deceased."
The male line of this particular family of Paynes died out in East Grinstead upon the death of Charles Payne, of East Grinstead and Newick, Esq., in 1734, but his only surviving daughter and heir, Miss Anna Payne (1732-1797), married, in 1760, Gibbs Crawfurd, of Saint Hill, J.P.,
The detailed history of this branch of the family can be read in “The History of East Grinstead by Wallace Henry Hills (1906)”; available in its entirety on at www.weald.org.

Inscriptions in East Grinstead parish church for Charles & Robert/Henry sons of Edward (Family ref 1E)

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Wills:

  1. Edward Payne (family ref top) left a 'Will' dated 10th June 1599 and was proved on 29th June 1599 (Ref Lewes A10.P201). The link is to a Transcript of the 'Will'. The 'Will' mentions his wife Katherine (executor) ; his sons George , Edward ; his granddaughter Susan Payne (dau of Edward); Others were John Harman and Edward Cole, John Alfrey the younger, William Alfrey of Hartfield ; Witnesses were John Goodwyne , John Undrhill?, Will Borer, Edward Goodwyne, Richard Woodman, Nicholas Terry. Properties mentioned were Cookes Crofte and Cookes meade in Eastgrinstead
  2. Edward Payne (family ref 1 ) left a 'Will' dated 29th September 1639 and was proved 8th May 1643. (Ref PCC Prob 11/191/343)
  3. Anne Payne (family ref 1 ) left a 'Will' dated 13th March 1642 and was proved on 6th June 1648 (Ref PCC Prob 11/204/515)
  4. Edward Payne (family ref 1 E) left a 'Will' dated 14th October 1658 and was proved on 19th October 1660 (Ref PCC Prob 11/302/458)
  5. Anne Payne (Family Ref 1 H) left a 'Will' dated 28th June 1679 and was proved on 14th January 1681 (Ref Lewes A35.P287). The link is to a Transcript of the 'Will'. The 'Will' mentions her cousins Anne Chatfield & Elizabeth Monk daughters of my cousin Robert Edsawe ; her cousin Timothy Jemott of Eatonbridge (widow); her cousin: Anne Mitchelborne (wife of John of Newick) ; her cousin Edward Cooke's daughter (now the wife of Mr Hinde); her cousin John Atkins and his children of cousin Mary Dyne; her cousins Richard Payne, Robert Payne, Charles Payne, Henry Payne, & neice Mrs Katherine Payne ; her cousin Timothy Dyne , wife of John Dyne ; her cousin Susan Wickering, widow ; her cousin Edward Payne of East Grinstead (executor), his wife Elizabeth Payne, his only son John Payne (under 21), his youngest daughter Elizabeth . Witnesses were John Keddelbey, Thomas Wickenshaw Andrew Ledger. Properties mentioned were Goodwicke in East Grinstead
  6. George Payne (family ref 2) left a 'Will' dated 17th May 1620 and proved 5th August 1620. (Ref Lewes SM D117)

Archives:

  1. Buckhurst Terrier: In 1598 on a survey of the Manor of Imberhorne, Edward Payne the elder is recorded as a copyholder in the parishes of East Grinstead & Hoathleigh and that he holds by copy dated 18 Sep 26 Eliz, part of the tenement (5 acres) "Bealings", the tenement (19 acres) at "Leane", a barn and 30 acres called "Butlers & Tilkherst", (bounds Demeane lands of Imberhorne N, John Kippinige E, John Haselden W, Edward Drew & Richard Woodman S) - (rent 8s).(note: Elizabeth came to throne in 1558)
  2. Buckhurst Terrier: In 1598 on a survey of the Manor of Imberhorne, Edward Payne the younger is recorded that as a copyholder in the parishes of East Grinstead & Hoathleigh and he holds by copy dated 15 Sep 22 Eliz, land (30 acres) called "Fellands" (no bounds) - rent 6s 3d plus also lands (7 acres) called "Chapmans" (no bounds) - rent 15d. (note: Elizabeth came to throne in 1558)
  3. Buckhurst Terrier: In 1598 Edward Paine is recorded as being a juror, ( Stephen Dungate, Edward Paine, Walter Humphrey, Thomas Treape, Thomas Velvick & others), on a survey of the Manor of Imberhorne. Edward Payne is recorded as a freeholder in the parish of East Grinstead and that he holds a meadow (7 acres) called " Cooks" (bounds George Duffield's Pickmots E, Queens Hihway to Imberhorne S, land of Edward Goodwin called Knights E & N; plus also lands (2 acres) called "Pilchers" or Pulters Croft (bounds Stephen Jarman E, Edward Goodwin W & S, the common called The Heath N) - rent 3s 8d.(note: Elizabeth came to throne in 1558)
  4. Buckhurst Terrier: In 1598 on a survey of the Manor of Imberhorne, Edward Payne junior is recorded as a freeholder in the parish of East Grinstead and that he holds lands (14 acres) called "Hillfield" & "Brodefield" (bounds Lawrence Langridge E, Edward Paine's barn and a lane leading to Washingwell Common in the borough of East Grinstead W, Queens Highway East Grinstead to Forest Row N, John Duffield's Wellands S) - rent 4s 7d.(note: Elizabeth came to throne in 1558)
Sources Returns to 'Top of Page'
  1. Sussex Genealogies  (Ardingly Centre) - John Comber 1932
  2. Sussex Record Society -  East Grinstead Parish Registers 1558-1661:
  3. Sussex Parish Registers –Ardingly, Cuckfield, East Grinstead, Lindfield, West Hoathly
  4. Sussex Record Society – Marriage Licenses at Lewes 1586-1642,1670-1732, 1772-1837 (Volumes 1, 6, 25,26)
  5. Lewes Will Microfilm
  6. Sussex Family History Group-Sussex Marriage Index CD
  7. Sussex Family History Group - Baptism & Burial records
  8. Sussex Record Society - PM Inquistions summaries
  9. IGI (International Genealogical Index: Latter-day Saints) - batches of parish records: see LINKS-Research Web sites
  10. History of East Grinstead by WALLACE HENRY HILLS,1906
  11. John Howes who has written a number of papers on the History of Paynes in Sussex