Peter Brown Family History

John Muddle (c1560) & Margery Farmer

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General History

John Muddle & Margey Farmer were not one of my direct ancestors but they are related to me as later indirect generations of a direct ancestor.

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John Muddle was born in about 1560 probably in Buxted, Sussex (derived- no birth record found). He was probably the son on Richard Muddle (1535) who was maybe the son of John Muddle -but see Personal History. He married Margary Farmer on 11th February 1588 in Rotherfield, Sussex (shown as Muddell) and they had one child (1).  Margary was buried on 8th August 1590 in Rotherfield, Sussex. John married secondly Dorothy Knight (Knyght) on 8th May 1592 in Rotherfield, Sussex (shown as Muddell). John was buried on 21st March 1615 in Rotherfield, Sussex (source 4) and Dorothy was probably buried there on 12th March 1639. (un-named but shown as ‘Widow Muddell’) . John & Dorothy had seven children. Further details of his descendants are given in source 4.

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John had eight children (one with Margery & seven with Dorothy)

  1. Thomas Muddle (Muddell) was baptised on 25th January 1590 in Rotherfield, Sussex. Thomas married a widow Mary Hider, whose maiden name was Longly, probably in Rotherfield, Sussex (licence was issued by Lewes Archdeaconry Court on 2nd October 1615 - sponsor was Alex Muddle of Buxted and Thomas shown as being a blacksmith of Rotherfield ) . Mary was baptised on 29th March 1590 in Rotherfield, the daughter of Richard Longly.  She was buried on 23rd October 1630 in Rotherfield, Sussex (un-named, but shown as 'wife of Thomas Muddell'). Thomas married secondly Joan Kent on 3rd November 1631 in Rotherfield, Sussex (shown as Muddell). Joan was buried on 15th November 1632 in Rotherfield, Sussex (un-named, but shown as 'wife of Thomas Muddell'). Thomas was buried on 10th June 1669 in Rotherfield, Sussex (source 4). Thomas & Mary had eight children.
    1. John Muddle (Muddell) was baptised on 10th March 1616 in Rotherfield, Sussex (source 4). He married Sarah Luxford on 18th October 1639 in Tonbridge, Kent . John was possibly buried on 29th December 1648 in Rotherfield, Sussex (shown as Muddell). John & Sarah had four children. Further details of his descendants are given in source 4 .
      1. Mary Muddle (Mudell) was baptised on 10th April 1640 in Rotherfield, Sussex. She was possibly mentioned in Mary Muddle's 'Will' of 1705 as sister.
      2. Thomas Muddle was baptised on 5th September 1641 in Rotherfield, Sussex. He married Mary Barker on 25th August 1664 in Lewes (Thomas Mudle of Rotherfield). Thomas & Mary lived at Jarvis Brook and had six children. Thomas was buried on 26th January 1688 in Rotherfield, Sussex. Mary left a 'Will' dated 5th March 1705 and was buried on 16th April 1705 in Rotherfield, Sussex.
        1. Thomas Muddle was baptised on 14th October 1664 in Rotherfield, Sussex and he was buried there on 18th November 1664 ('son of Thomas Muddle of Jarvis Brook').
        2. Elizabeth Muddle was baptised on 22nd October 1665 in Rotherfield, Sussex (source 4). She was mentioned in her mother's 'Will' of 1705 as Elizabeth Banks and also her children Sarah, Mary & Elizabeth Bunyer (from first marriage) & Rebecca Banks.
        3. Anne Muddle (Ann) was baptised on 11th June 1668 in Rotherfield, Sussex.(source 4)
        4. Thomas Muddle was baptised on 13th June 1671 in Rotherfield, Sussex.(source 4). He was mentioned in his mother's 'Will' of 1705 as executor. He probably married Elizabeth Mainard on 9th September 1702 in Tonbridge, Kent ('Thomas of Rotherfield'). He possibly married secondly Mary Dodswell on 26th June 1706 in Wytham, Sussex ('Thomas Mudle of Rotherfield'). Thomas was probably buried on 27th March 1756 in Rotherfield, Sussex (shown as a Clocksmith') and Mary was probably buried there on 27th December 1756 ('a widow'). Thomas & Mary had seven children and the three sons all became clockmakers.
          1. Thomas Muddle was baptised on 1st September 1707 in Rotherfield, Sussex. Thomas was possibly buried on 16th February 1785 in Rotherfield, Sussex ('a Clocksmith').
          2. Edward Muddle was baptised on 16th May 1709 in Rotherfield, Sussex. Edward was possibly buried on 10th April 1788 in Rotherfield, Sussex
          3. Mary Muddle was baptised on 9th April 1711 in Rotherfield, Sussex (source 4) and she was buried there on 11th May 1713 ('daughter of Thomas').
          4. Anne Muddle was baptised on 24th February 1713 in Rotherfield, Sussex.
          5. Elizabeth Muddle was baptised on 3rd October 1714 in Rotherfield, Sussex.
          6. Nicholas Muddle was baptised on 21st June 1716 in Rotherfield, Sussex.
          7. Sarah Muddle was baptised on 10th August 1718 in Rotherfield, Sussex.
        5. Mary Muddle was baptised on 12th April 1674 in Rotherfield, Sussex.(source 4). She was mentioned in her mother's 'Will' of 1705 as executor.
        6. Sarah Muddle was baptised on 24th June 1677 in Rotherfield, Sussex. She was mentioned in her mother's 'Will' of 1705.
      3. John Muddle (Muddell) was baptised on 30th July 1643 in Rotherfield, Sussex. He married Elizabeth Vinten (or Vincent) on 20th April 1676 in Wadhurst, Sussex. Elizabeth was buried on 6th December 1692 in Rotherfield, Sussex ('wife of John Muddell of Buxted') and John was probably buried on 29th June 1716 in Rotherfield, Sussex ('from Buxted'). John & Elizabeth had seven children.
        1. John Muddle was baptised on 11th March 1677 in Rotherfield, Sussex and he was buried there on 25th April 1677 ('son of John').
        2. Thomas Muddle was baptised on 14th July 1678 in Rotherfield, Sussex and he was buried there on 21st October 1679 ('son of John').
        3. Elizabeth Muddle was baptised on 15th August 1680 in Rotherfield, Sussex (source 4) and she was buried there on 2nd December 1680 ('daughter of John').
        4. Mary Muddle was baptised on 23rd October 1681 in Rotherfield, Sussex. Mary was possibly buried there on 2nd January 1714 ('daughter of John of Buxted')..
        5. John Muddle was baptised on 2nd March 1684 in Buxted, Sussex (son of John). John probably married Susan Gilbert on 9th June 1719 in Withyham, Sussex (license issued at South Maling on 6th June). John & Susan had seven children (mother usually shown as Susanna).
          1. Hannah Muddle was baptised on 6th June 1720 in Buxted, Sussex.
          2. John Muddle was baptised on 19th October 1721 in Buxted, Sussex.
          3. Susanna Muddle was baptised on 29th June 1723 in Buxted, Sussex.
          4. Elizabeth Muddle was baptised on 4th October 1724 in Buxted, Sussex.
          5. Mary Muddle was baptised on 5th December 1726 in Buxted, Sussex.
          6. Isaac Muddle was baptised on 25th June 1731 in Buxted, Sussex.
          7. David Muddle was baptised on 13th March 1734 in Buxted, Sussex.
        6. Thomas Muddle was baptised on 5th June 1686 in Buxted, Sussex (son of John) and he was buried on 1st July 1688 in Rotherfield, Sussex (son of John of Buxted).
        7. Anne Muddle was baptised on 22nd July 1688 in Buxted, Sussex (dau of John).
      4. Elizabeth Muddle (Muddell) was baptised on 30th December 1646 in Rotherfield, Sussex.
    2. Thomas Muddle (Muddell) was baptised on 1st March 1618 in Rotherfield, Sussex (source 4) and he was probably buried there in September 1619 (un-named , no day given and shown as Muddell).
    3. Elizabeth Muddle (Muddell) was baptised on 2nd April 1620 in Rotherfield, Sussex.
    4. William Muddle (Muddell) was baptised on 25th November 1621 in Rotherfield, Sussex and he was buried there on 1st July 1623 ('son of Thomas Muddell').
    5. Anne Muddle (Ann Muddell) was baptised on 1st January 1623 in Rotherfield, Sussex and she was buried there on 25th January 1623 ('Anne, daughter of Thomas Muddell').
    6. Mary Muddle (Muddell) was baptised on 31st October 1624 in Rotherfield, Sussex. She married John Allchorne on 2nd February 1647 in Rotherfield, Sussex .
    7. Anne Muddle (Muddell) was baptised on 4th May 1628 in Rotherfield, Sussex. She married Thomas Boys on 22nd July 1652 in South Malling, near Lewes, Sussex (source 4).
    8. Margaret Muddle (Muddell) was baptised on 4th May 1628 in Rotherfield, Sussex and was probably buried there on 4th May 1629 (un-named, 'daughter of Thomas Muddell').
  2. Elizabeth Muddle (Muddell) was baptised on 8th April 1593 in Rotherfield, Sussex and she was probably buried there on 6th July 1597. (The burial record describes Elizabeth as the wife of John, but this is thought to be an error) .
  3. Susan Muddle (Muddell) was baptised on 6th October 1594 in Rotherfield, Sussex. She had a baseborn child.
    1. Rachel Muddle was baptised on 22nd September 1619 in Frant, Sussex (father was William Crowherst)-(source 4). Rachel was buried on 26th July 1632 in Rotherfield, Sussex ('Rachell Muddell, daughter of Susan').
  4. Robert Muddle (Muddell) was baptised on 27th December 1596 in Rotherfield, Sussex. He married Alice Cheseman on 15th November 1625 in Rotherfield, Sussex (shown as Muddell). Alice was probably buried on 6th December 1633 in Rotherfield, Sussex (un-named, but shown as 'wife of Robert Muddell'). Robert married secondly Margaret Hatch on 26th October 1634 in Hadlow, Kent (source 4).  Margaret was buried on 13th June 1663 in Rotherfield, Sussex (un-named, but shown as 'wife of Robert Muddle'). Robert was buried on 21st March 1674 in Rotherfield, Sussex ('widower'). Robert & Alice had possibly at least seven children.
    1. Ano Muddle: Un-named children of Robert were buried on 13th August 1626 in Rotherfield, Sussex.
    2. Thomas Muddle (Muddell) was baptised on 23rd September 1627 in Rotherfield, Sussex. He firstly married Elizabeth Aynscombe on 16th May 1661 in Rotherfield, Sussex. She was buried 3rd February 1675 in Rotherfield, Sussex ('wife of Thomas of Mayfield'). He probably secondly married Elizabeth Tomsett on 22nd June 1676 in Wadhurst, Sussex. Thomas left a 'Will' dated 23rd June 1690 (in which he says he was of Mayfield) and he was buried on 14th January 1702 in Wadhurst, Sussex (source 4). Elizabeth  was mentioned in her husband's 'Will' of 1690 and she was buried on 7th January 1717 in Wadhurst, Sussex.
    3. Margaret Muddle (Muddell) was baptised on 2nd February 1630 in Rotherfield, Sussex. She was mentioned in her brother Thomas's 'Will' of 1690 as Margaret Stonard (with her four children (Thomas, Susanna, Mary & Frances).
    4. Elizabeth Muddle was baptised on 29th January 1632 in Rotherfield, Sussex.
    5. Ano Muddle: Two un-named children of Robert were buried in December 1633 in Rotherfield, Sussex.
  5. Edward Muddle (Muddell) was baptised on 26th August 1599 in Rotherfield, Sussex. He married Agnes Burgess (or Annis Burges) on 2nd May 1631 in Rotherfield, Sussex (license issued on 30th April at Lewes Archdeaconry Court Edward shown as being a blacksmith of Rotherfield). Edward was buried on 5th July 1643 in Rotherfield, Sussex (shown as Muddell) and Agnes was buried there on 28th October 1679 ('widow'-shown as Ann). Edward & Agnes had three children.
    1. Robert Muddle (Muddell) was baptised on 15th May 1631 in Rotherfield, Sussex.
    2. Elizabeth Muddle (Muddell) was baptised on 7th April 1634 in Rotherfield, Sussex and she was buried there on 27th March 1639 ('daughter of Edward Muddell').
    3. Thomas Muddle (Muddell) was baptised on 27th December 1636 in Rotherfield, Sussex. Thomas was probably buried on 2nd May 1687 in Rotherfield, Sussex.
  6. Elizabeth Muddle was baptised on 14th February 1602 in Rotherfield, Sussex and she was maybe possibly buried there on 30th September 1603 (source 4).
  7. Mary Muddle was baptised on 21st December 1604 in Rotherfield, Sussex (source 4). She married Robert Bennett on 17th December 1622 in Rotherfield, Sussex (Mary shown as Muddell- licence issued on 14th December 1622 at Lewes Archdeaconry Court -sureties, Robert Muddle of Rotherfield, blacksmith).
  8. Bridget Muddle was baptised on 14th February 1608 in Rotherfield, Sussex (source 4) and was buried there on 12th October 1609 (source 4).

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The following details have been taken (with a few adaptions) from the Web Site http://www.muddlefamilies.info/index.html THE MUDDLE FAMILIES,THE LINEAGE & HISTORY OF THE MUDDLE FAMILIES OF THE WORLD : There is a lot more information on that site.

Alexander Muddle & Richard Muddle

It’s also thought that Richard Muddle senior of Buxted was probably the father or guardian of John and Richard, but again there is no definite proof of this, and neither John nor Richard junior were mentioned in Richard senior’s will. One son who was mentioned in the will, Alexander Muddle, whitesmith of Buxted, was an overseer and witness to the will of Richard’s son Abraham in 1609, and bondsman for the marriage licence of John’s son Thomas in October 1615, after the respective deaths of Richard in 1608 and John in March 1615, indicating that Alexander may have then been acting as head of the family and was the eldest surviving brother of John and Richard.

John Muddle

John Muddle settled in Rotherfield where he had the status of yeoman, which indicated that he was reasonably prosperous and probably owned and farmed at least a few acres of land. He also practised his trade of whitesmith, this being one who worked in tin and other non-ferrous metals, and also finished metalwork by processes such as polishing and enamelling. John was probably an overseer of brother Richard’s 'Will' of 1608.

On 3 October 1582 in the twenty-fourth year of the reign of Elizabeth I, when John was about 20 years old, three horses belonging to George and Christopher Hill (or Hilles, records differ on this detail) were stolen at Rotherfield. This resulted in John, together with Richard Muddle of Mayfield and Edward Akent of Withyham, being arrested for this offence and incarcerated in the gaol at Lewes Castle, because at a Session of the Peace (the date is not recorded on surviving documents) held at Lewes they were before the court requesting bail which was granted. "And at the same general session of the peace, before the aforenamed Justice, there came John Modell of Rotherfield in the county aforesaid, smith, Richard Modell junior of Mayfield in the county aforesaid, smith, and Richard Modell senior of Buxted in the county aforesaid, smith.And the aforesaid John Modell and Richard Modell junior acknowledged themselves to owe to our said Lady the Queen, each of them, forty pounds, and the aforesaid Richard senior acknowledged himself to owe to our said Lady the Queen twenty pounds".

The next gaol delivery for Sussex was the Assize Session held at East Grinstead on 8 March 1583. John, Richard and Edward presented themselves there as their bail conditions required, but it seems that the indictment against them had not been prepared. This resulted in John and Richard being discharged from their own bail, but they remained bound by the recognizance given by Richard Muddle senior. Edward was released on his own bail, there being no mention of the recognizance given for him by William Holman that must, for some reason, have lapsed. The next gaol delivery for Sussex was the Assize Session held at East Grinstead on 19 July 1583. John, Richard and Edward presented themselves there to answer the serious charges against them, for at this time the theft of anything valued above 12d (equivalent to about £10 in 2000) was a capital offence. They were tried before Thomas Gawdy, knight, and twelve jurors, who found them guilty, but to escape the hangman’s nose they claimed ‘benefit of clergy’. This was a right first decreed by William II in 1087 that was originally intended to let clergy escape their first capital offence before a civil court and instead be tried by the more lenient church court. The test that they were clergymen was that they should read a passage from the Bible. This right was later extended to anyone who was literate and could satisfactorily read a passage in Latin from the Bible. By tradition the passage they were normally asked to read was part of Psalm 51, which became known as the ‘neck-verse’, and many people who couldn’t read would learn to recite this so that if required they could pretend to read it. So, whether our three were literate, or had just memorised the Psalm, they passed the test as the assize record states

John was probably the John Modle recorded at the Dewland Manor Court held on the 11 April 1589, at which Robert Hodley and his son Richard let off 28 acres of Le heise to William Wickham, his son William Wickham junior, and John Modle. This land was in four parcels: Boardfield on which a messuage stood, Wellfield, Bickhost field, and a piece of woodland called Le Stumblett (this land is what now forms Little Ease Farm in Rotherfield Parish).

John’s trade as a whitesmith is documented in the Court records of Rotherfield Manor: On 24 May 1594 and 14 April 1595 John is referred to as John Modell, whytesmith; then at the court of held on 12 March 1603 when his son, then aged 13, was admitted to land, the son was described as Thomas Modell, son of John Modell, whitesmith. At this same court John Mudell was a witness in a dispute over land by two members of the Farmer family. All three of John’s sons became blacksmiths and thereby continued the Muddle family’s association with metalworking.

Thomas Muddle (1590)

On 7 May 1643 Thomas was recorded as being a churchwarden, in which post he served for one year, which was normal at this time.
At the Sussex Quarter Sessions held at Lewes on 15 & 16 January 1646 the grand jury indicted Thomas and his son John, who were both described as blacksmiths of Rotherfield; that on 20 April 1645 at Rotherfield they had stolen and carried away a ploughshare valued at 2 shillings. At the Lewes Quarter Sessions held on 30 April and 1 May 1663 Thomas Muddle of Rotherfield was ordered to appear at the next sessions to show cause why he should not contribute to the keeping and maintenance of his grandchild Mary Muddle. 

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Wills:

  1. Mary Muddle (family ref 1 A ii) left a 'Will' that was dated 5th March 1705 and was proved on 21st April 1705 (Lewes A46.P14). In the 'Will' she mentions her sister Mary Muddle; her daughters Elizabeth Banks (+ grandchildren Sarah, Mary & Elizabeth Bunyer (from first marriage) & Rebecca Banks ), Mary Muddle, Sarah Muddle; her son Thomas Muddle
  2. Thomas Muddle (family ref 4 B) left a 'Will' that was dated 23rd June 1690 and was proved on 17th April 1702 (Lewes A45.P16). In the 'Will' he mentions his wife Elizabeth; his sister Margaret Stonard; his nephew Thomas Stonard ; his neices Susanna Harvey, Mary Bussish!, Frances Thomas.
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  1. Sussex Parish Records - Buxted, Framfield, Mayfield, Rotherfield, Ticehurst, Wadhurst, Waldron
  2. Sussex Family History Group-Sussex Marriage Index CD
  3. Sussex Family History Group - Baptism & Burial records
  4. Muddle familes website: http://www.muddlefamilies.info/index.html
  5. IGI (International Genealogical Index: Latter-day Saints) - batches of parish records: see LINKS-Research Web sites